Tailss Prower wrote:Oh and tanks are only hard to counter because of the people exploiting the hardners and most don't even do that most stack dmg mods and if you can't kill a sica thats packed with dmg mods a armor plate with a armor hardner then you really shouldn't play anyway the fact that you guys don't use your heads and some actual tactics is the very reaosn you can't counter the tanks I've seen plenty mow right through mlt tanks with AV hell even some mowed through mine which by no means is weak.
it's amazing how they have no trouble and you do
Most tankers don't use hardeners you say? What ******* game are you playing. where is this "most" statistic you just pulled out of your ass?
Its amazing that you assume I'm having problems with tanks. They are harder to take down now than pre-1.7 true, and they deserved a buff, but CCP done broke the AV>Vehicle balance pretty bad this build. Most players agree, die hard tankers are soaking in the tears because after a long time being underpowered.. they finally have the lime light they have craved. Congrats I guess. I run in a squad.. when tanks show their lovely heads I switch to AV with some other squad mates and we deal with it.
Yesterday, for whatever god awful reason the squad I was in wanted to run spambush. Nyain san showed up on the enemy team... nuff said. 6 blueberries on our team had zero warpoints. This particular corp, used for example purposes only, is so well known for tank spam their opponents would rather not play than even try.
The reason I make my posts is because I put my shoes on the feet of brand new players. What does this game look like to them? You probably, rather most certainly, don't come off as the type of player who gives two flux about the new player experience so I expect this to go straight over your head.
Ask yourself this question.... When a player is presented with an enemy tank (or 6) on the battlefield, and the most viable option to destroy or counter said tank(s) is to pack RE's onto an LAV (or call in a tank of their own), drive it into the side of the tank and commit suicide just to destroy the tank, what problem does this pose?
From the tankers persepective... it is an overpowered crutch that needs to be removed from the game. God forbid my tank gets one shotted by a kamikaze suicide bomber who was crafty enough to drive his one-hittable bomb through the battlefield and into the side of my metal crutch, even though one shot from anything would have destroyed him before he could have gotten to me. QQ
From the non-tankers perspective... there are no other viable means to deal with said tank, or tank spam.
So the crux of the problem is that there are no other viable means to counter tanks, right? besides advanced/proto AV or calling in your own tank. Go run a militia heavy, militia forge gun.. and let me know how well you have done against tank spam.. or god forbid actual tankers who have skilled into the profession.
This is from the new players perspective.. those who do not have a heavy suit with adv/proto FG (probably the only viable AV weapon.. see lolswarms, lolplasmacannon, lolavnades, lolproximines).
Do you get it now? Probably not.. because even a beta veteran tanker would agree that tanks in their current state, ability to spam the field of battle, recall, low price, etc etc are very far from balanced (which is what you were complaining about in your first post right? balance?)